Comments on: 34pict-3 carburetor final http://www.decrepitoldfool.com/2006/09/34pict_3_carburetor_final/ Schrodinger's tagline is both clever and banal at the same time Tue, 28 Aug 2012 20:56:43 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.5.1 By: George http://www.decrepitoldfool.com/2006/09/34pict_3_carburetor_final/#comment-1976 George Sun, 23 Nov 2008 23:57:05 +0000 http://www.decrepitoldfool.com/?p=600#comment-1976 Both are correct, though we used different focus and nomenclature.  That’s a fairly common problem in technical writing.  See comment #5 for clarification.

Turn the air-idle screw (the big one) clockwise (in) to reduce air.  This will have the secondary effect of a richer mixture, but its primary effect is to reduce the amount of air that passes into the manifold, and the engine slows.  Turning counter-clockwise (out) allows more air, and the engine speeds up.  Once you have the desired idle speed, you trim the mixture with the fuel screw – the small one.  This will affect the idle speed, so repeat both steps in smaller increments until both are in perfect balance.

It should be obvious why the air-idle screw is so much larger than the fuel screw; they approximate the air/fuel ratio.  Relatively minute quantities of fuel are required compared to the amount of air.

It is a bit confusing scrolling up and down through main text and comments.  At this time, I am closing comments on this post, pending a re-write that will aggregate everything into one article with all illustrations in place.

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By: Rich http://www.decrepitoldfool.com/2006/09/34pict_3_carburetor_final/#comment-1975 Rich Sun, 23 Nov 2008 21:38:03 +0000 http://www.decrepitoldfool.com/?p=600#comment-1975 On the vw-resource web page writes the opposite of what you say the volume control screw does:
http://www.vw-resource.com/34pict3.html#carb

“Next set the volume of gas available at idle speeds. This is done using the Volume Control Screw. Please note that the Volume Control Screw controls the AIR volume, not the fuel volume. Screwing it in reduces the air and makes the fuel/air mixture richer. And of course turning the Volume Control Screw out increases the concentration of air and makes the mixture leaner.
Note: The Volume Control Screw is the smaller of the two adjusting screws, located on the left side of the carburetor just above the Idle Cutoff solenoid (which has a black wire from the positive side of the coil attached to it). The Volume Control Screw is NOT used to set the idle speed – that’s the job of the Bypass Screw

How is correct?

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By: George http://www.decrepitoldfool.com/2006/09/34pict_3_carburetor_final/#comment-1974 George Thu, 13 Nov 2008 16:44:33 +0000 http://www.decrepitoldfool.com/?p=600#comment-1974 You’ll like that book – it’s a wonderful example of clear technical writing for the non-technician. I try to emulate his style when writing instructions for people where I work.

Amazon.com
Muir, John, How to keep your Volkswagen alive, A Manual of Step-by-Step Procedures for the Compleat Idiot.

Looks like the new edition is paperback instead of spiral bound, but otherwise the same.  Also think about getting the Bentley shop manual, which is excellent but written for mechanics.

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By: clyde http://www.decrepitoldfool.com/2006/09/34pict_3_carburetor_final/#comment-1973 clyde Thu, 13 Nov 2008 16:35:20 +0000 http://www.decrepitoldfool.com/?p=600#comment-1973 Where can I locate for purchase a copy of afore mentioned Muir’s book?

I am not a mechanic, but enjoy tinkering. I have a 1972 s. beetle that I can only get to run on two cylendars. It is getting fire to all four, but it is getting gas to only two cylendars. Any helpful suggestions.

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By: C http://www.decrepitoldfool.com/2006/09/34pict_3_carburetor_final/#comment-1972 C Mon, 29 Sep 2008 18:07:51 +0000 http://www.decrepitoldfool.com/?p=600#comment-1972 What a great site! I enjoyed reading through everything.  I need some advice, Mr. George, if you don’t mind… I’m a 26 year old woman who just lived a year in Africa.  I came home and traded my old Wrangler for my dad’s newly restored bright yellow ‘74 Superbeetle which I love to pieces.

I’ve come across a few problems (the latest being what I think is a clogged heat riser) and I’m hesitant to go back to the shop (especially since I’m low on cash).  I think I can fix them, with the help of Muir’s book, but I have little automotive experience.  I’m a little concerned that time/money in the upkeep of my little bug might be beyond what I can do or afford, and I’m hesitant to jump in and start tinkering with something that could potentially be life threatening…  Do you have any advice?

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By: Punch Buggy http://www.decrepitoldfool.com/2006/09/34pict_3_carburetor_final/#comment-1971 Punch Buggy Tue, 02 Sep 2008 14:18:39 +0000 http://www.decrepitoldfool.com/?p=600#comment-1971 I was lucky and found the real problem with this car.
See link the carb and distributor are not compatible. The exact symptoms described in this article are what I have. I am going to be performing this change soon I will let you know the results.
http://www.aircooledtech.com/34pict3_modification/

Thanks for the reply.

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By: George http://www.decrepitoldfool.com/2006/09/34pict_3_carburetor_final/#comment-1970 George Mon, 01 Sep 2008 18:52:08 +0000 http://www.decrepitoldfool.com/?p=600#comment-1970 In the 34PICT-3 the idle speed is regulated by the air idle screw – see picture above – and the idle mixture by the idle mixture screw.  You might also have a clogged jet – read the section about SeaFoam for unclogging it.  Also the sections about regulating fuel pressure, about the Pertronix magnetic pickup (made a big difference) and check your butterfly valve for correct adjustment and wear.  If it is worn a new, rather than rebuilt, carburetor, is your best bet.  Good luck!

I guess it is getting time to re-write this post and incorporate everything from the comments into the main body.  Lots of good conversation has come in from readers.

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By: Punch buggy http://www.decrepitoldfool.com/2006/09/34pict_3_carburetor_final/#comment-1969 Punch buggy Mon, 01 Sep 2008 17:50:42 +0000 http://www.decrepitoldfool.com/?p=600#comment-1969 I have a 1972 superbeetle that has a Solex34 Pic 3 carb on it. The problem is I can’t get it to idle warm. I have checked for vacuum leaks with come carb cleaner seeing if the idle speed would pick up. It did not. I also reset the points and timing just to eliminate them from the equation. So back to the carb now. I also noticed that the mixture screw does not have an affect on the idle speed at all. I’m thinking the cut-off valve might be stuck or not retracting when it is started. Is there other things to check. The only way it will idle is with it slightly choked and that means it is lean obviously. Any help would be appreciated thanks.

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By: Boiler Installation http://www.decrepitoldfool.com/2006/09/34pict_3_carburetor_final/#comment-1968 Boiler Installation Fri, 11 Jul 2008 22:01:54 +0000 http://www.decrepitoldfool.com/?p=600#comment-1968 Great article..Keep up the good work. I just discovered your blog today and I must add that I am enchanted by this post..

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By: George http://www.decrepitoldfool.com/2006/09/34pict_3_carburetor_final/#comment-1967 George Fri, 13 Jun 2008 19:24:44 +0000 http://www.decrepitoldfool.com/?p=600#comment-1967 Thank you!  The setup as described here runs very well indeed.  Be sure to read through the comments and responses.  But I am selling my Beetle because my hands are getting too arthritic for auto work.

Dual carbs have the potential to get very good gas mileage and much better performance though.  All progressive carbs are by necessity a design compromise – do away with the long, relatively cold intake manifold and you can get closer to optimum.  But you will need a different distributer than the one shown here.

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