Ralph Nader decides not enough people hate him, steps into presidential race
I’ve never forgiven him for deep-sixing the Corvair, either…
Remember back in 2000 when Safety-Man got three million votes, making it possible for the Frat Boy In Chief to take the white house? BBC reports: Ralph Nader to run for president. He denies that he’s a “spoiler candidate”. Hey Ralph, your intentions are not the issue here. If there was ever a time when one man could do a great service to his country by shutting the frakk up, it’s now and it’s you.
I actually agree with a lot of things Nader says, but the presidential race isn’t the place to say them.
Updates:
- Sheril at The Intersection compares Nader to the Energizer Bunny
- Greg Laden weighs in, including a fascinating quote from Mike “I’m not Nehemiah Scudder” Huckabee
- Even that bastion of uber-liberalism, the Mother Jones Blog, suggests
“...fret not, citizens of Berkeley, Burlington, and Madison. You’ve made your mistakes with Nader in the past but America can forgive you. Particularly if you ignore him this time around.”
- Get your “No To Nader” blog badge Here
Why not? I thought this was a free country or freedom of speech only applies to people you like? I think Nader is a wacko but people have a right to chose which wacko they want to listen to and vote for. This BS about Nader costing Gore the win is just that, Gore just didn’t appeal to enough people and no matter what the split majority wins. Well unless your in Chicago and the dead get to vote.
Posted by james old guy on 02/24/08 at 11:45 AMI didn’t say he should be censored. He has a national organization to say whatever the hell he wants without trolling a presidential race for attention.
Posted by george.w on 02/24/08 at 11:57 AMI think that any person could run in any seat of government even as President. Even in other countries there are also those whom they call spoiler candidate but for me I don’t consider them as spoiler candidate for reasons that they are also educated its just they have no proper machineries for there campaigns and they were not that famous as other candidates.
Posted by Demotivator on 02/24/08 at 12:08 PMI’m with DOF here.
Voting for Nader only takes a vote from Democrats.
It doesn’t give the vote to Republicans. To really get some kick out of your vote, you should vote Republican, that way it’s a net loss to the Dems and a net gain for the Republicans.
It’s the best value you could get for your vote. To vote for the Democrats you’re just kicking the ball downfield.
Posted by Ted on 02/24/08 at 01:53 PMI think Nader will be surprised how poorly he’ll do. This year, with candidates, we have an embarassment of riches!
Posted by alex on 02/24/08 at 07:11 PMIf your happy with the present two party system then banning anyone else from running for president makes sense.
Posted by James Old Guy on 02/24/08 at 07:52 PMOnce again, I didn’t suggest banning anyone. It’s my perception that the Bush administration has been a catastrophe and the only nice thing I can think of to say about John McCain is that he doesn’t scare the hell out of me like the other Republican candidates. He isn’t somebody I’d feel OK voting for.
I would love to have a credible third party, or even a parliamentary system. The two-party system practically guarantees this kind of electoral brinksmanship. But I’ll be damned if I know how to navigate out of these waters. Half-assed third-parties just work in favor of partisan hard-liners.
Posted by george.w on 02/24/08 at 08:17 PMHe isn’t somebody I’d feel OK voting for.
Is he giving you that creepy “Manchurian Candidate” vibe? (The old one, not the recent crappy remake.)
Yeah, there’s something off about that guy. Who knows what the commie handlers want him to do.
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You know, I can understand only native borns for Prez, but even without the Manchurian brainwashing techniques, how good of an idea is it to elect a guy that was tortured for five years. It just doesn’t seem like a great idea.Posted by Ted on 02/24/08 at 08:30 PMManchurian candidate… LOL! (nervous laughter)
You know, I can understand only native borns for Prez
I would consider voting for the Governator if it were constitutionally permitted.
Posted by george.w on 02/24/08 at 08:58 PMPresident Schwarzenegger—“I was elected to lead, not to read”.
Posted by Ted on 02/24/08 at 09:19 PMHey, you need to put the No to Nader graphic on your site!
Posted by Greg Laden on 02/25/08 at 09:42 AMMy No to Nader Badge will be up shortly.
And James you got everyone all wrong. This has nothing to do with censorship and more to do with rolling back Bush policies.
Posted by webs05 on 02/25/08 at 12:01 PMWeb
Is there anything that is not Bush’s fault?Posted by james old guy on 02/26/08 at 09:38 AMI think you misunderstood me. The point of being pissed off at Nader for running is because he will take away votes that would have went for a democrat thus making it easier for McCain, thus the continuation of Bush policies. This has nothing to do with whether Bush is to blame or not.
Posted by webs05 on 02/26/08 at 11:39 AMIt’s not Nader that concerns the Democrats, but Naderites. God forbid that they should adopt the Naderist plank, because as you know, we are already far too socialist and want to be more considerate of the feelings of lobbyists.
Posted by Ted on 02/26/08 at 02:14 PMI wish Nader would drink the Kool-Aid.
And yes, I owned a ‘65 Corvair, and I haven’t forgiven him for that either.
I don’t necessarily disagree with many of Nader’s positions, other than his denial that he’s a spoiler.
Since we are stuck with a two party system by virtue of our voting system, not having a conditional “if then” clause, if Nader had any true integrity he would make himself vulnerable for real debate and run as a Democratic candidate. But until the time that we can specify, “My first choice is Nader, second choice is for the “X” party”, then there’s no doubt he’s nothing more than a radical protester who has no regard for the hundreds of thousands of deaths and maimings that his 2000 Presidential bid cost the world.
And GM was trying to make a fuel efficient affordable car to stem the tide of foreign imports. Now because of over zealous “safety” gurus like Nader, every soccer mom feels they needs their own Sherman tank for the ultimate safety of themselves at the cost of peril to our economic reliance on foreign oil and to the effect to the environment. The Corvair should have been “tweaked” not vilified. Nader should be vilified.
Posted by Steve-meister on 02/26/08 at 04:48 PMWeb
If the democratic candidate is so weak that less than one tenth of 1% of the votes will make a difference then maybe they need another candidate. Why is the assumption that those votes would have gone democrat in the first place? Now if the green party or any other party had come up with a viable candidate then the argument might hold water, but Nader is such a non player that he won’t even cause a ripple.
It really doesn’t make much difference, I am kind of hoping Obama wins, exposing a fraud in public is always fun.Posted by james old guy on 02/26/08 at 06:35 PMApparently you haven’t taken the time to look at the results and the votes Nader pulls, so what’s the point James? Do you just want to be right in face of reality? Here, I’ll feed your ego… YOU’RE RIGHT!
I am kind of hoping Obama wins, exposing a fraud in public is always fun.
So who did Obama murder? What did this “socialist” do?
Posted by webs05 on 02/26/08 at 06:58 PMJames to Webs:
“Web
Is there anything that is not Bush’s fault?”One possible answer:
What hasn’t George Bush screwed up?Seriously, even the conservative magazine The Economist says the Bush administration is a long run of “cronyism and incompetence”.
Posted by george.w on 02/29/08 at 08:37 PM
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