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November 15, 2005

“I saw signs of physical abuse by brutal beating, one or two detainees were paralysed and some had their skin peeled off various parts of their bodies ”
- Hussein Kamal, Deputy interior minister; BBC News,  Iraq detainees ‘found starving’

It seems a bunch of Sunni detainees were found tortured and starved by Shia-dominated security forces.  Those are the ones on our side, remember?

I have been saying for years, we hook up with monsters in pursuit of some higher goal, we lose the goal and share in the monstrosity.  We are not going to win this battle with guns alone.

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  1. November 16, 2005 at 10:01 | #1

    Hi DoF.It is indeed very lamentable that these things (ugly things) had to happen. I guess in any war, such things do tend to occur.

  2. November 17, 2005 at 12:38 | #2

    No one should be surprised by this. We are trying to put a moral value on a culture whose values are quite different from ours. The Muslim world has used torture for centuries-the Sultans used to imale non believers or just a perceived court enemy for their viewing pleasure. Sure, in my view it is perverted and wrong but I also have no doubt to most of the Shia it was just a turn about fair play type of thing. We will never win in the mid east if we try to enforce our value system. And, trying to fight them by our rules is like going into an axe fight with a big club. You may get in a few licks but eventually the axe is going to get you.

  3. antweenie
    November 17, 2005 at 18:30 | #3

    I know what you mean,Guyk.

    Like, for example, the Christian world burning people alive at the stake.

    Or the Jewish people, who I’m from, stoning people to death for perceived blasphemy,
    etc et al, and so on…

    if we’re talking centuries here.

    what else? um…secret torture chambers found throughout Eastern Europe…maybe?

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