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The Politics Test

September 28, 2005

Why do we do these things?  I took The Politics Test

You are a

Social Liberal
(70% permissive)

and an…

Economic Conservative
(61% permissive)

You are best described as a:


Link: The Politics Test  on Ok Cupid
Also: The OkCupid Dating Persona Test

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  1. September 29, 2005 at 13:24 | #1

    Hell, you are a leftist compared to my 90/90 and solid libertarian. I just can’t buy by into their isolationist ideas.

  2. September 29, 2005 at 13:54 | #2

    Apparently DOF is my political soul mate (70/60).

  3. September 29, 2005 at 16:55 | #3

    See!!!  We aren’t THAT far apart, are we?

  4. Brock
    September 29, 2005 at 17:09 | #4

    I’m a Social Liberal: 71% permissive and an Economic Liberal: 13% permissive.

    You are best described as a:


    You exhibit a very well-developed sense of Right and Wrong and believe in economic fairness.

    See? I’m stranger than all of ya!

  5. September 30, 2005 at 22:06 | #5

    Man, I wish the 4 of us could get together for beverage-of-choice ‘n argue about stuff!  ;-)   Well, I guess that’s kind of what we do online.  I sure do enjoy it.

    These tests are fun but the problem with labels is they only stick to the surface.  The test says I’m a “Libertarian”, and so I am in many ways. I’m against most foreign interventions, and most government regulation of individuals and corporations except where it harms the community. 

    Oops!  Now I’m a Socialist!  I believe the government has a vital role in doing certain things wholesale that we can’t do very well retail and which need to be done.

    One of these things that needs doing is protecting the environment.  Businesses will constantly press for environmental destruction to make a buck.  It is up to the government to take the long view and count the real cost of environmental degradation.  Oops!  Now I’m a Democrat! 

    Except if Teddy Kennedy would keep trying his old hydroplane trick until he gets it right, (no passengers this time) I wouldn’t stop grinning for a month.

    On another tangent, I can envision times when foreign intervention is necessary, and I’m a stickler for keeping a balanced budget.  I believe in the primacy of science and technology for the American economy.  Oops!  Now I’m a Republican!  And in fact I’d be glad to vote for a Republican if I could find one.

    In one issue after another, I find myself at odds with some label.  Gun control?  For it.  Concealed carry?  For it.  Abortion?  Heavily regulated in third trimester, some regulations in second trimester, and NO restrictions in first (insuring I piss off everyone involved.)  Free speech?  No right is more sacred – people who are offended need to just GTFU.  And so on…

    Most political catch-phrases are really not all that descriptive and were thought up by PR experts.  Take “Tax-and-spend Liberal”.  If it really is something that needs doing, I’d a hell of a lot rather the government just get the money from taxes than borrow it from the Chinese and Saudis.  When those loans come due, where will that money come from?  Taxes.  It amazes me the Democratic party – in its talent for missing PR opportunities – hasn’t siezed upon “Borrow-and-spend conservative”. 

    Except borrowing for routine expenditures is hardly a conservative thing to do, so the phrase doesn’t make a lot of sense.  Well fine – all the better.  With full control of the House, the Senate, and the Executive branches, the present party has proven incontrovertably that they are NOT conservatives.

    I guess what it boils down to is I wish our political system weren’t so “winner-take-all”.  Each candidate is a package deal, like a record album where you only really like one song and are either indifferent or uncomfortable with the rest.

  6. October 4, 2005 at 22:46 | #6

    Good to see ;)

    “You are a

    Social Liberal
    (83% permissive)

    and an…

    Economic Conservative
    (80% permissive)

    You are best described as a:


    Pretty spot on for what I believe.

    As to government regulation, it is needed, but it must be based upon uncolored science. Any harm caused by a company to people is harm and those that run the company must be held accountable.

    I cannot see many things that the government can do better than small groups of people can. Enforcement of the rule of law, protection from the use of force both internally and externally…that is about it. There may well be other things, but I cannot think of them.

    The views you call republican are mostly shared by libertarians. The interesting thing behind libertarian views is that they all stem from a single rule. Force shall not be used against others except in self defense or the defense of others. If a leader of some country is terribly abusing their people and the people cannot defend themselves…then bringing the leader to justice might make sense…though invading the country would not. Most people I know who are looking for a real republican to vote for need only look for a libertarian.

    Sorry to be so preachy…I just feel that most who believe in real republican policies (but refuse to try and force their views on others) would do well to look at the libertarian or constitutional party. I take every chance I can get these days to explain libertarian views to others and point out the flaws in both the democratic and republican parties. While the more fanatic libertarians might not be fully grounded in reality, most realize that we are so far from liberty that one cannot just do away with all big government programs overnight.

    Anywise, if you are not too familiar with libertarian views, do a search on “classical liberalism” on the net. Even searching on “libertarian” will pull up some good results…but the term is mainly a united states term as the word liberal was perverted long ago and people tended not to distinguish between “liberals” (socialists) and “classical liberals” (much closer to republican, though lacking the authoritarian bent).

  7. October 5, 2005 at 01:53 | #7

    One more quick note. I found a good anti-libertarian FAQ out there that seems rather reasonable: Anti-libertarian FAQ

    Some good stuff in there. Anywise, it is obvious that no political party really covers all the bases. If one wants the best we can get, one must do a lot of looking at candidates (or run as one)…I simply seek a good, solid party with views I can mostly agree with. So far I have found the Libertarian Party (Main SiteWikipedia Info) and the Constitutional Party (Main Site and Wikipedia Info)

    A good listing of current parties is available at Wikipedia US Political Party List.

    While none are perfect, I am glad to see that there are at least a couple that fit my beliefs well (small government, self reliance, responsibility, liberty). For me, both of our major parties appear far too corrupt to support anymore.

    Anywise, I just figured I would provide some useful links after getting a little too preachy in my previous post. I know that the LP has some flaws, but genuinely feel that it is a much more sound choice than either the Republican party or the Democratic party if I want my children to grow up in something other than a police state.

  8. October 5, 2005 at 02:09 | #8

    Ack =/ Last corrective/amending post from me. I must be very tired…looks like I posted the wrong “constitutional party” links as there are a few and two look quite the same. I meant to post links to the US Patriot Party (Wikipedia Notes)

    Sorry for spamming your blog DOF.

  9. October 5, 2005 at 08:44 | #9

    Welcome to the table!  (Hi, we’ll take a double-shot cappuccino for Religion here…)  ;-)

    You’re exactly right that no one party fits the bill.  Sometimes I think we’d be better off with a parliamentary style of government where winner pretty much takes what winner won, instead of taking “everything.”  It would lend itself to a more multi-party system which would be a real improvement over the pissing match we are pleased to call “government” now.  :mad:

  10. October 10, 2005 at 20:48 | #10

    Not so much a fan of proportionate representation.  One problem that our “winner take all” sort of system averts is the undue influence that fringe parties have in coalition governments.  Looking at both Israel and Italy (and even, on occasion, the UK and Canada) does not seem encouraging.

    But, then, any system has its weaknesses.

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