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January 15, 2008

  1. January 15, 2008 at 22:50 | #1

    Actually, I like Huckabee a lot better than Scudder—but I still wouldn’t trust either of ‘em with a chair in the Prophet’s Templer … er, White House.

  2. January 16, 2008 at 00:34 | #2

    I loathe Huckabee

  3. Ted
    January 16, 2008 at 08:11 | #3

    My readings of Heinlein placed him as a Libertarian/Republican. Maybe I got that wrong, but that’s how I recall it from impressions as a teenager.

  4. January 16, 2008 at 08:22 | #4

    Yeah, that’s about right.  His Moon Is A Harsh Mistress is a favorite among Libertarians.

  5. January 16, 2008 at 08:46 | #5

    Huckabee is not a conservative nor a real republican..but he is a religious fanatic who is hoping to ride the coattails of the religious right wing into the nomination.and there is no way in his version of hell that he can ever get elected.

    I have contended for years that the religious right wing..the social conservatives..are as dangerous to freedom and thus to our country as are the left wing socialists. The past seven years of their control of the country as borne this out..trillions of dollars in debt and a congress that worries more about he trivial problems of the country than the three big issues that we are going to have to face eventually.national security, illegal immigration, and the national debt.

    Fred Thompson is the only one who seems to want to govern according to the constitution of the country..and although he is a conservative he damn sure is not part of the religious right wing RINOs

  6. Ted
    January 16, 2008 at 08:59 | #6

    …are as dangerous to freedom and thus to our country as are the left wing socialists.

    1. GUYK, I’d like to hear more about your views on freedom. Is it static or does it change, shift, progress in tandem with societal changes? I know you have a blog out there but a few minutes here maybe…

    2. What does “freedom” in the context of your sentence mean?

    3. If something is a “danger”, what is the appropriate response to mitigate danger?

  7. January 16, 2008 at 09:00 | #7

    If Fred Thompson gets elected I think all press sessions should begin with that Law and Order sound. That would be hilarious.

  8. Ted
    January 16, 2008 at 09:14 | #8

    That would be hilarious.

    Or dramatically ominous?

    Haven’t you had enough drama over the last seven years? Hail to the chief is routine, common, and blase; the Law and Order intro would be like something out of a dystopic flick akin to over the top conservative fascism. The underlying theme would be one of submission; “My administration demands law and order! Seig Something! (“Amerika uber alles”, perhaps, with appropriate boot clicking?)”

    I’d like to hear anyone else’s opinions on the three questions I asked above as well. Just for perspective.

  9. January 16, 2008 at 09:27 | #9

    “At very least the Republican Party is trying to get there.”

    It looks to me like the Republican party is trying mightily, and successfully, to get anyone but Huckabee nominated. To the extent that he has attracted non-evangelicals, he’s done so with populist rhetoric that is not unique to Republicans. Still, I think it is appropriate to examine the religious views of the candidates, both Republican and Democrat.

  10. January 16, 2008 at 10:06 | #10

    Haven’t you had enough drama over the last seven years?

    Oh yea, but that doesn’t mean I can’t laugh about something… I never said I wouldn’t be in a constant state of fear at that point.

  11. January 16, 2008 at 10:10 | #11

    I don’t think you can tie Heinlein down to a party.  While some of his writings point to conservative/libertarian leanings in some areas he was very progressive.

    Excellent comparison to Scudder DOF.

  12. January 16, 2008 at 10:49 | #12

    Maybe they are on schedule and Scudder is the one who comes after president Huckabee… (shudder)

    BTW everyone, Digital Cuttlefish posted one of his wonderful poems, about Huckabee: What The Huck.  (DC is a genius on a scale of Theodore Geisel – I can only marvel at his work)

  13. james old guy
    January 16, 2008 at 12:38 | #13

    The intersting part of this whole thing is that congress has a lower approval rating than the President. Regardless of who wins, you still have the same problem unless congress has a wholesale change. The most interesting rumor I have heard lately is that if Hillary wins the nomination she will ask for Bill as the V.P.
    Think about the line of succession if for some reason Hillary goes toes up we get Bill back as President or does Nancy Pelosi pick it up because Bill has already served two terms?

  14. January 16, 2008 at 13:12 | #14

    According to the 22nd Amendment, you can’t be *elected* more than twice.  Bill would succeed, but couldn’t run again.

  15. January 16, 2008 at 13:15 | #15

    As noted above, Heinlein defies easy political classification.  I would probably label him a libertarian if I had to apply a label, if only because of his disdain (as expressed in his writing, at least) for meddlesome authorities and the nanny state.  He was socially quite progressive, but also believed in a strongly, mutually supportive society (folks helping one another) as a moral/ethical, if not political/legal, imperative.

  16. January 16, 2008 at 13:18 | #16

    I suspect Congress has a lower approval rating than the President because there is a hard core of Bush supporters who will approve of him even if he ate live puppies on TV, whereas Congress has no “personal” circle of support.  Add to that lingering ill will toward the GOP Congress, the GOP minority’s ability to stymie any Democratic legal initiatives (leading to a Congress largely impotent, except to resist the more egregious of Bush’s dictates), the fact that Pelosi and Reid are both shrill jerks of the first water, and that the big Democratic “we’re going to change things now” hasn’t amounted to much of anything except political failures and cave-ins, and I’m not surprised Congress’s approval rating is so low.

  17. January 16, 2008 at 17:29 | #17

    I think I have to agree with Dave on the Congress issues.

    That would be crazy if Hillary did that. But I still don’t see her getting the nomination.

  18. January 16, 2008 at 17:54 | #18

    It has a sly appeal—but I suspect Hillary would rather have Bill as just an advisor, ambassador of good will, and house-husband than vice/co-president.  She wouldn’t get a lot of additional political advantage from Bill being on the ticket as Veep, whereas she can potentially coopt some strong support from some other names.

    As to the likelihood of her getting the nomination—I think it remains too close to call, at least until after February 5.  And it’s pretty amazing to think that my state will be holding its primaries before the nominations are actually sewn up …

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