Comments on: Sarah Palin’s pregnant daughter, UPDATE http://www.decrepitoldfool.com/2008/09/sppd01sep08/ Schrodinger's tagline is both clever and banal at the same time Tue, 28 Aug 2012 20:56:43 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.5.1 By: webs05 http://www.decrepitoldfool.com/2008/09/sppd01sep08/#comment-5393 webs05 Fri, 05 Sep 2008 01:40:54 +0000 http://www.decrepitoldfool.com/?p=1307#comment-5393 Some links on Obama and McCain. In case you needed further reading on the subject. :)

The Obama I know.

McCain making a dumb statement against a good idea Obama had.

Setting the record straight.

A politician with a spine.

McCain policy adviser quotes.

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By: WeeDram http://www.decrepitoldfool.com/2008/09/sppd01sep08/#comment-5392 WeeDram Thu, 04 Sep 2008 22:47:04 +0000 http://www.decrepitoldfool.com/?p=1307#comment-5392 Palin on Oil:

“I beg to disagree with any candidate who would say we can’t drill our way out of our problem,”

http://www.ibdeditorials.com/IBDArticles.aspx?id=300668510518137

McCain temper & discourtesy:

http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2006/7/5/00548.shtml

(and there is more … and worse)

This is not about Democrat or Republican.  This country is in a very fragile and vulnerable position, and we cannot afford another four years of ideologues who make decisions based on fantasies, fanaticism and lead with fear and lies.

Oh, and real hockey moms don’t even WEAR lipstick! ;)

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By: George http://www.decrepitoldfool.com/2008/09/sppd01sep08/#comment-5391 George Thu, 04 Sep 2008 13:56:31 +0000 http://www.decrepitoldfool.com/?p=1307#comment-5391 Andrew Olmstead at Obsidian Wings has a 2-part analysis that is relevant to the experience topic:
- Executive Experience
- More on executive experience

Pretty much covers what I’ve been thinking about it.

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By: Marcel http://www.decrepitoldfool.com/2008/09/sppd01sep08/#comment-5390 Marcel Thu, 04 Sep 2008 13:33:07 +0000 http://www.decrepitoldfool.com/?p=1307#comment-5390 WeeDram, I’m sure we both know more about Illinois politics than we would like. Certainly policy is a sound basis for a vote, and if you support the Democratic platform you should vote for the Democrat. The oil companies might be surprised to hear that Governor Palin is ‘for big oil.’ I don’t think that was their experience with her. Senator Obama is certainly a smart and decent guy, but I disagree with your characterization of Senator McCain. I’ll look into the question of Governor Palin’s and Senator Obama’s relative experience. George, thanks for hosting the dialog.

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By: WeeDram http://www.decrepitoldfool.com/2008/09/sppd01sep08/#comment-5389 WeeDram Thu, 04 Sep 2008 02:03:56 +0000 http://www.decrepitoldfool.com/?p=1307#comment-5389 Marcel:  Obama is smart.  McCain isn’t.  He’s a mean-tempered hot head who finished very near the bottom of his class in the Naval Academy.

Palin has far less experience than Obama, and I find her positions on all sorts of things offensive to me.  Anti Free Choice.  For drilling in ANWR and for big oil.  Against sex education in public schools.  The list goes on.

And I probably know more about Illinois politics than you suspect I do.

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By: Marcel http://www.decrepitoldfool.com/2008/09/sppd01sep08/#comment-5388 Marcel Thu, 04 Sep 2008 00:33:45 +0000 http://www.decrepitoldfool.com/?p=1307#comment-5388 WeeDram, I’m sure you didn’t mean anything sexist, and I know from experience that sarcasm is hard type:-) But are you suggesting that somehow Governor Palin’s position is that women should stay home and mind the children? No doubt there are some on the lunatic fringe who do think that, but I doubt if any of them are working to elect either McCain or Obama. Finally, if you think Governor Palin is unqualified, I can only wonder what you must think of Senator Obama. Though from my point of view, a short career in Illinois politics is a better qualification than a long one.

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By: WeeDram http://www.decrepitoldfool.com/2008/09/sppd01sep08/#comment-5387 WeeDram Thu, 04 Sep 2008 00:08:19 +0000 http://www.decrepitoldfool.com/?p=1307#comment-5387 Marcel—My comment is not sexist in any way, though I understand how it can be interpreted that way.

The Republican (far) right has always railed against women who work out of the home and don’t take care of the children.  My comment would apply to anyone, man or woman, who makes a choice that prioritizes something over a young child in crisis when their publicly stated values would indicate the opposite.  The selection of Ms. Palin (the most UNqualified VP candidate we have had since Quayle, and Agnew before him) is disappointing on many levels.

Obama has young children who are not in crisis.  His decision to run, according to all that I have read, was after a lot of family discussion and an agreement on his path.  I am not saying that Mrs. Palin did not do similarly.  But the sequence and timing of events doesn’t seem to be very conclusive to me in that regard.

If Obama were in the same situation, I would criticize him as well.

Finally, my sarcasm is a form of political commentary which.  In the US, this form of commentary is not appreciated as much as in some other countries.  But to me it’s a matter free press and democracy.

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By: Marcel http://www.decrepitoldfool.com/2008/09/sppd01sep08/#comment-5386 Marcel Wed, 03 Sep 2008 18:58:33 +0000 http://www.decrepitoldfool.com/?p=1307#comment-5386 That’s a much better line of argument than Sally Quinn‘s. Maybe we can get you on CNN:-) You’d keep the discussion on policy, and avoid the double standards and ad feminem attacks. Unfortunately that might depress ratings…

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By: George http://www.decrepitoldfool.com/2008/09/sppd01sep08/#comment-5385 George Wed, 03 Sep 2008 18:37:50 +0000 http://www.decrepitoldfool.com/?p=1307#comment-5385 It isn’t a matter of ‘too busy’ but of unwillingness.  The ‘family values’ types want to restrict the information about sex given to adolescents.  Without making reference to any candidate’s kids, this has turned out to be poor strategy.

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By: Marcel http://www.decrepitoldfool.com/2008/09/sppd01sep08/#comment-5384 Marcel Wed, 03 Sep 2008 18:29:33 +0000 http://www.decrepitoldfool.com/?p=1307#comment-5384 I think Senator Obama has two small children. Is he going to be too busy for them? Or is that only a question we ask women?

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